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July 09, 2008

Second VT Republic Breaks from League of the South

It appears that the Southern Poverty Law Center's report on Vermont secessionists' ties to the racist League of the South has made an impact.

In what appears to be a dramatic turnaround for the secession-minded Second Vermont Republic, its founder Thomas Naylor has issued a "love letter" from the group to one of its long-time allies, the League of the South. SVR's ties to the LOS — an organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center has deemed a racist organization — have been questioned widely by some in the Vermont media, bloggers at Green Mountain Daily, and some anonymous bloggers as well.

Naylor has long defended ties to the League of the South, claiming that secessionists have to stick together and that, well, he has met some of their leaders and doesn't consider them racist.

But, in his July 4th letter Naylor takes a new stance:

Secession always brings to mind images of the Civil War, slavery, racism, violence, and preservation of the Southern way of life. Secession is often equated with Southern, redneck, Christian fundamentalist racism. Anyone who is a secessionist is considered a likely racist, but a Southern secessionist is a racist a priori. Since the LOS is a Southern secessionist group, it’s hardly surprising that there is a widespread perception that it is racist.

To achieve its twofold objectives of Vermont independence and the peaceful dissolution of the American Empire, SVR needs all the help it can get from other independence movements. But so long as the albatross of racism hangs around its neck, the LOS can never be a truly effective partner for SVR. SVR, on the other hand, risks being tainted by the scourge of racism simply by associating with the LOS.

Naylor then takes it one step further and says the LOS must do the following if it wants to rid itself of any racist shackles:

1. Renounce Racism

2. Recruit Black Members
3. Invite Black Speakers
4. Admit the Civil War is over
5. Unify the South

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which issued an Intelligence Report on SVR in June (a report Naylor denounced), has an excellent overview of Naylor's letter to LOS as well as key background on SVR and its activities. Naylor takes a shot at SPLC in his new letter, too, calling it a "race-baiting" organization.

Apparently, the LOS has not yet responded. But, some of their friends have, and Naylor's not their favorite whitey right now.

The blog "White Reference" said Naylor has "thrown the League of the South" under the bus to get off SPLC's "shit list." The blog provides a swift counter-attack to Naylor here, picking apart Naylor's letter and his five-point recommendations.

The right-wing Vanguard News Network also takes aim at Naylor, wondering if he has "shit between his ears." Adding, "How can any sane person not comprehend the need for a racial basis to society after witnessing the America of today?"

Hopefully, Naylor's letter is not just a way to assuage some of his critics. The response from the racists who use the League of the South as their wedge into mainstream politics shows that the company he's been keeping is far from the like-minded Vermonters who argue for a peaceable secession.

Too late. This doesn't change anything, as for the last two years, Naylor was unrepentant about this. Now that he's seen for the kook that he is (independent of the unlikelihood of secession, regardless), he figures he needs to get rid of the southerners. It's a bunch of BS, as Naylor had no problem going on a white supremacist radio show, more than once. You can't polich a turd, in this case, a racist turd.

JD,

Good points, and ones that I'm sure we'll be debated within the secession supporters in Vermont who were taken aback by Naylor's long-term defense of the League of the South.

If nothing else, I think if Naylor et al looks closely at the blogs who are attacking Naylor for his "about face" I think the true colors of the League's backers come to the fore and should give them pause before they consider reconnecting in the future.

Like Ron Paul before him, Thomas Naylor has shown himself to be lacking the stamina necessary to stand up to the jewish controlled media. Both of these gentlemen know in their hearts of hearts that there is truth in what the "racists" say. Perhaps the presentation leaves something to be desired but there is truth there nonetheless. There is neither time nor space to go into that in detail here. The SPLC on the other hand is jewish Marxist smear group whose primary aim is to scare other jews into donating vast amounts of money to them so they can ward off a revival of the new Reich. The SPLC is run primarily by a pedophile and a colon cowboy, bone smuggler or if you prefer, butt burglar. Why would a real man fear scum like this? Naylor said he would not cave in to them, yet here he has. He has let them win and lost face and support in the process. WHY? What was to be gained? Negative articles from the SPLC would have attracted more right minded people to the cause of secession. Perhaps what is needed is younger men with a little fire in them. Perhaps we need a "Radical Movement for a Free Vermont". One that does not take anything off the table. You know freedom isn't free. At some point, you're going to have to get your hands wet if you want it bad enough. Do you think the tyranny in Washington is just going to let its wage slaves wander off the plantation? Who will provide billions of tax dollars per year to give to Israel if that happens? Who will subsidize the breeding of the subprimate criminal class in our cities? Who will provide for the illegal mexcrement invaders? Secession is serious business. I don't think you keyboard commandos got the guts for it. Yet you find the courage to criticize those who do. I suggest you people charter a bus and take a ride through downtown Detroit, Newark, Camden, Bedford-Stuyvesant. Get out and go for a walk. Those of you who make it back will have a whole different take on this issue. Until then, as they say in Ole Eire....feck off.

Like Ron Paul before him, Thomas Naylor has shown himself to be lacking the stamina necessary to stand up to the jewish controlled media. Both of these gentlemen know in their hearts of hearts that there is truth in what the "racists" say. Perhaps the presentation leaves something to be desired but there is truth there nonetheless. There is neither time nor space to go into that in detail here. The SPLC on the other hand is jewish Marxist smear group whose primary aim is to scare other jews into donating vast amounts of money to them so they can ward off a revival of the new Reich. The SPLC is run primarily by a pedophile and a colon cowboy, bone smuggler or if you prefer, butt burglar. Why would a real man fear scum like this? Naylor said he would not cave in to them, yet here he has. He has let them win and lost face and support in the process. WHY? What was to be gained? Negative articles from the SPLC would have attracted more right minded people to the cause of secession. Perhaps what is needed is younger men with a little fire in them. Perhaps we need a "Radical Movement for a Free Vermont". One that does not take anything off the table. You know freedom isn't free. At some point, you're going to have to get your hands wet if you want it bad enough. Do you think the tyranny in Washington is just going to let its wage slaves wander off the plantation? Who will provide billions of tax dollars per year to give to Israel if that happens? Who will subsidize the breeding of the subprimate criminal class in our cities? Who will provide for the illegal mexcrement invaders? Secession is serious business. I don't think you keyboard commandos got the guts for it. Yet you find the courage to criticize those who do. I suggest you people charter a bus and take a ride through downtown Detroit, Newark, Camden, Bedford-Stuyvesant. Get out and go for a walk. Those of you who make it back will have a whole different take on this issue. Until then, as they say in Ole Eire....feck off.

This Naylor guy sounds like he is just another victim of the jews and their witch hunts. This country has gone to hell with the jews having control over our media and financial institutions.

When will the White people grow a back bone again like our White forefathers who founded and built this country?

.. what's the point of going through all the effort of creating an independent country if you can't determine who gets to be a citizen (or resident)? The SPLC's opinion is irrelevant and should be prohibited from operating in VT.

Wow, some pretty amazing comments up above.

Nobody's going to buy his claims that he's now free of his southern racist buddies.

Take a look here for an analysis of his letter: http://greenmountaindaily.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2947

Thanks for breaking this.

The SPLC is led by an out and out pervert. Anything that comes out of their mouth is the usual blather from the degenerate mind of Morris Dees. Read the divorce papers about Morris Dees, and then ask yourself if you should care about every time this creep cries "RACISM!!! RACISM!!! RACISM!!!"

http://www.zianet.com/web/dees1.htm

Even Lou Dobbs is quoted as saying that "The SPLC lacks credibility." I heard him state this on air during one of his broadcasts. Not a MSM fan but when someone from the MSM acknowledges the nature of the SPLC one should take note.

The SPLC is run by perverts, moral degenerates, and is funded by Jews. It's purpose is to see that White America is totally destroyed.

There is no America without the White race. There is no civilization without the White race. There is no life as we have know it in the face of the Jewish war against the White race.

Technically, these comments violate our commenting policy, but I think that leaving them up proves the point of the blog post. Does SVR really want to associate itself with people who use terms like "illegal mexcrement invaders"? Not anymore, it seems...

Obviously, these views don't reflect the views of the Seven Days staff in any way.

-- Cathy Resmer, Seven Days Online Editor

Want more disturbing hate speech? Check out this thread at the Vanguard News Network:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=75919

Thanks Cathy. Some interesting reading! The only reason the so called racists are being silenced is that they are onto something. Otherwise, it would be easy to dismiss them by just saying they are kooks and ignore it.


"Technically, these comments violate our commenting policy, but I think that leaving them up proves the point of the blog post. Does SVR really want to associate itself with people who use terms like "illegal mexcrement invaders"? Not anymore, it seems...

Obviously, these views don't reflect the views of the Seven Days staff in any way."

-- Cathy Resmer, Seven Days Online Editor

How come you people seem to have a problem with freedom of speech? The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of Americans who unlike yourselves, have had the misfortune of being forced to live in a "diverse" ( nigger infested) area. The thought of secession appeals to us because no one in their right mind would repeat the mistakes of the past if given a chance to start a new country. That means NO non-white citizens and NO minority control of our media. Now you can beat up the old man all you want about his affiliations with the LOS. (BTW, we don't consider the LOS a genuine "racist" organization.) This is immaterial. The Empire is collapsing as we type. The future will belong to those who take it. Personally, after observing the horrors of diversity and multiracialism up close and personal, I don't care how much blood has to be spilled to prevent it from happening again. In a few years, the Kwa will resemble Yugoslavia during its breakup. Remember how unpleasant that was? It will be ten times worse here. Meanwhile, in Vermont, you will still be singing Kumbya and repeating the mistakes of the past.

"Technically, these comments violate our commenting policy, but I think that leaving them up proves the point of the blog post. Does SVR really want to associate itself with people who use terms like "illegal mexcrement invaders"? Not anymore, it seems...

Obviously, these views don't reflect the views of the Seven Days staff in any way."

-- Cathy Resmer, Seven Days Online Editor

How come you people seem to have a problem with freedom of speech? The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of Americans who unlike yourselves, have had the misfortune of being forced to live in a "diverse" ( nigger infested) area. The thought of secession appeals to us because no one in their right mind would repeat the mistakes of the past if given a chance to start a new country. That means NO non-white citizens and NO minority control of our media. Now you can beat up the old man all you want about his affiliations with the LOS. (BTW, we don't consider the LOS a genuine "racist" organization.) This is immaterial. The Empire is collapsing as we type. The future will belong to those who take it. Personally, after observing the horrors of diversity and multiracialism up close and personal, I don't care how much blood has to be spilled to prevent it from happening again. In a few years, the Kwa will resemble Yugoslavia during its breakup. Remember how unpleasant that was? It will be ten times worse here. Meanwhile, in Vermont, you will still be singing Kumbya and repeating the mistakes of the past.


Want more disturbing hate speech? Check out this thread at the Vanguard News Network:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=75919

Posted by: Cathy Resmer | July 10, 2008 at 07:50 AM


Cathy I would like to thank you for the free endorsement of vnnforum.com . This his would have cost us quite a few dollars if we had went to an advertisement agency. That is if they would have given us any add time to begin with. They do not like the truth to be exposed either, just like you.

Most of those agencies have the same agenda as you do. That is to exterminate the White race, for all of you who have not realized this yet.

White people want to seceded from the USSA and get away from niggers. That idiot lier Naylor wants to bring them with us.

Cathy,
Thanks for leaving the comments up. It's a great illustration of the virtues of free speech. When people are free to express themselves, their true colors can shine through. The fools discredit themselves.
-OneVermonter

Good point, OneVermonter.

Fortunately for us, the knuckle-dragging racists tend to inbreed with other racists, further diminishing what little mental capacity their ilk might have.

In fact, I'm quite surprised most of them are clever enough to operate a computer. Perhaps they hire trained monkeys to do it for them.

As most psychologists will tell you, these types are just a bunch of whiny sociopaths who didn't get enough of mama's teats, and so they just latch onto the most antisocial behaviors they can find. They really aren't capable of original thought, so they all have to carry around crib notes from Mein Kampf.

The best way to counter idiots like this is to ridicule them (which is so easy to do), since there is no reasoning with them (it's impossible since they don't think logically).

Of course, the ones that cross the line into hate-speech (or worse) should be dealt with appropriately. Like turning over their IP addresses to the FBI. Nothing like getting jerked out of bed at 3AM with guns pointing at you, followed by an extensive full-cavity search, to make you appreciate your freedom.

I pulled the Second Vermont Republic bumper sticker off my car, in part, as a result of Dr. Naylor's infatuation with the LOS, and I applaud his renunciation of it now. The disgusting comments above illustrate why the issue was so important - yet they also make me question further why there was ANY sympathy for the LOS in the first place. The answer, is because the leaders of SVR are less concerned with Vermont independence based on our traditions, history, and cultural uniqueness, than they are with personal agendas and radical ideologies. Naylor has stated: “Peaceful dissolution of the empire is more important to me than secession from the United States.” Naylor, and the editors of pseudo-secessionist Vermont Commons use Vermont as a scenic backdrop for spouting typical 9/11 conspiracism, lincoln revisionism, and testifying to every radical chic cause celeb under the sun. They've done great harm to the movement - a movement that has been building for decades. Is the damage irrevocable? I'd like to hope that it's not, and Naylor's break with the LOS can only be seen as a positive step. Where it goes from here is yet to be seen. Another positive step would be to recognize we are separatists in the Quebec tradition, rather than "sesesh" as if we are all (like Naylor) originally from Mississippi.

Of course no one has noted the interesting fact that Vermont is not a very racially diverse state, is it? (Compared to others ...) So, maybe it's easy for them to get up on their high horse.

"Of course, the ones that cross the line into hate-speech (or worse) should be dealt with appropriately. Like turning over their IP addresses to the FBI. Nothing like getting jerked out of bed at 3AM with guns pointing at you, followed by an extensive full-cavity search, to make you appreciate your freedom."

So tell me, why would an authoritarian jackass like yourself be interested in "freedom"? You sound like a homo with a Nazi fetish. I guess it's easy to be a nigger lover in a place where there are so damn few of them. Why don't you take a stroll through Harlem as I have on occasion. It's real interesting. Better than being in Iraq fighting the jew inspired neoCohen war. Then again, I'll bet you like them too. Nothing wrong with them controlling 100% of the media, etc. Yes, we're all just conspiracy nuts. Say, how is that tribe of Bantus working out for you over in Burlington. Do your taxes keep going up and up to pay the welfare benefits for the eight little bastards each family has? How many of your women have been raped by the new arrivals? Or do you just chalk it up to a cultural misunderstanding?

The biggest problem here, as I pointed out on White Reference, is that Thomas Naylor rolled over and exposed his soft underbelly to the SPLC when they put the pressure on. There are two reasons why this is a problem.

(1). First, Mr. Naylor demanded the complete cultural surrender of the LOS as the price of his continued fellowship. The War for Southern Independence, the Confederate battle flag, and "Dixie" are seamlessly embedded within the foundation of Southern culture. Why should Southerners be required to give it up. Just because the SPLC doesn't like Southern culture doesn't make it illegitimate. Nobody started complaining about the Confederate battle flag until the 1990s. Why did it suddenly become so bad?

(2). His surrender to the SPLC confers a respectability upon the organization that is completely undeserved. If you look at the SPLC's blogroll, you will see that it has a pronounced left-wing bias. How can you trust a politically-biased partisan organization to be the official "custodians of hate"? Don't forget, the SPLC even falsely designated the town of Rutland as a "Klan stronghold", although local notables said they don't recall any organized Klan activity there.

If the SVR prefers to dissociate amicably with the LOS, that's their business, but they did so under political duress. Self-proclaimed watchdogs like the ADL and the SPLC would be powerless if we would quite empowering them by listening to them and implementing their bogus counsel.

Oh, and by the way, if Mr. Naylor was expecting to get a pat on the head and a scooby snack from Mark Potok in exchange for his surrender, he was sadly mistaken. The SPLC grants no absolution to instant anti-racists.

Re: 'Got Milk'


"Good point, OneVermonter. Fortunately for us, the knuckle-dragging racists tend to inbreed with other racists, further diminishing what little mental capacity their ilk might have."

How do you honestly expect to be able to get along with other races when your inane comment above proves that you can't even get along with members of your OWN race? And you'd do well to save the 'inbreeding' slurs for the jews, since they experience many, MANY more genetic diseases from inbreeding than White people ever have.

"In fact, I'm quite surprised most of them are clever enough to operate a computer. Perhaps they hire trained monkeys to do it for them."

No, 'da boys in 'da hood aren't very proficient with anything that they cannot smoke, eat, drink or rape.

"As most psychologists will tell you, these types are just a bunch of whiny sociopaths who didn't get enough of mama's teats, and so they just latch onto the most antisocial behaviors they can find. They really aren't capable of original thought, so they all have to carry around crib notes from Mein Kampf."

Right, and your 'pearls of wisdom', i.e., 'all races are created equal', 'racism is evil' are just as fresh, original, innovative and daring as they were the first ten million times the jew-controlled media rammed them down the collective throat of White America going back to the forced school integration of the '50s. LOL!!

"The best way to counter idiots like this is to ridicule them (which is so easy to do), since there is no reasoning with them (it's impossible since they don't think logically)."

Yes, and it's sooo much easier than using your ionospheric intellect to offer real world, empirical examples as to how and why all of the bad, mean White Separatists' ideology is invalid.

"Of course, the ones that cross the line into hate-speech (or worse) should be dealt with appropriately. Like turning over their IP addresses to the FBI. Nothing like getting jerked out of bed at 3AM with guns pointing at you, followed by an extensive full-cavity search, to make you appreciate your freedom."

Yeah, I have no doubt that the intensity of your appreciation for full-cavity searches comes about from extensive first hand experience in your local bath-house. 'Got Milk' is a predictably apropos username for somebody like you, 180 degrees opposite of the biblical term 'strong meat', since the only 'strong meat' you've ever had any appreciation for are those that have filled YOUR body-cavities. ROTFLMAO!!

Hey, Milkman: cogitate on this little gem:

"The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself."
-- Joseph Sobran

The Southern Poverty Law Center has no credibility. They didn't even condemn Jessie Jackson for saying he wanted to castrate Barack Obama! And while there are far more hate crimes committed by blacks against whites, the SPLC cherry picks the few incidents of white on black violence to highlight and/or file lawsuits.

I've noticed that some cult-minded Vermonters like to import pet Negroes from Boston or Springfield or some other sewer. Be careful with that. They turn vicious once you stop giving them treats. You are much better off with White children, whether your own or adopted, or even a dog or a cat. Just because Murray Rothstein's MTV tells you it's cool, doesn't mean you should believe him. Rothstein/Redstone is Jewish and one of the most important Jewish mitzvot is to deceive the Gentiles in order to create global Shalom (global Jewish dominance). Mixing the races into a multicultural mess is Shalom because then Jews get to interpose themselves as the referees of multi-racial harmony, AT YOUR EXPENSE, YT! Just remember that.

I've seen enough. We've proven the point. It's time to move on.

No more comments on this thread, effectively immediately.

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